Lorde Talked About Her Unique Friendship and Working Relationship With Jack Antonoff

After Jack Antonoff and Lena Dunham broke up, Perez Hilton disseminated rumors that the producer is now dating Lorde. So incensed was Antonoff by this bout of pot-stirring that he took to Twitter for a little clarification. “normally i would never address rumors but i resent having the most important friendships and working relationships in my life reduced to dumb hetero normative gossip,” he wrote. And what a shame they were, because Antonoff and Lorde’s friendship and creative working relationship is, as it turns out, incredible.

This revelation comes from Billboard‘s new cover story with Lorde. In it, she talks about the human heart, the afterlife, and having her existence acknowledged by Beyoncé. She also gave a rare glimpse into her and Antonoff’s deeply weird and deeply cool friendship. When asked for a moment that “crystallizes” who Jack Antonoff is, Lorde provided an anecdote about the time he introduced her to Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

“When I came to New York, we had only written together maybe a couple of times, and we were very obsessed with each other on a creative level and as buds,” she told Billboard. “I was sort of doing nothing in New York, and we did this thing where for five days in a row we just kept having dinner every night, just getting to know each other. One night, somehow it came up that I hadn’t had Cap’n Crunch or Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Lucky Charms. He was like, ‘We have to do this.’ So we went to a bodega, got all of these cereals and went back to his house in Brooklyn and did a little lineup of bowls. We tried, like, 20 different kinds of cereal. I still think about Cinnamon Toast Crunch all the time.”

“And there was another one that was like Reese’s Pieces balls,” she added. “Delicious.”

Indeed, Lorde, indeed. The pop genius also had some choice quotes about what it’s like to collaborate with Antonoff. “He manages to make you feel like he’s only working on your thing,” she said. “The Bleachers album is what he was working on most of the time. Those two records were really happening side by side. It’s like when people have their babies around the same time and the babies are friends.”

“We still FaceTime almost every day,” she continued. “When you work with someone, you sometimes think, ‘Maybe it will just be for this time, and we say we’re going to keep in touch but we won’t.’ But we really … I’m like, ‘Hey, dickhead, what are you getting me for Christmas?'”

That someone would reduce such a glorious friendship to “dumb hetero normative gossip” is truly unforgivable.

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